Public Input Wanted on Parks & Recreation Master Plan
Do you wish Royal Oak had a splash pad or a family pool? Royal Oak's recreation supervisor encourages residents to provide feedback.
The 2013 City of Royal Oak Parks & Recreation Master Plan will be on display for public comment from through Feb. 3 at the Salter Community Center, Mahany-Meininger Senior Center, and Royal Oak Library.
“The City of Royal Oak needs residents’ help crafting its Parks & Recreation Five Year Master Plan. This is the first time residents are able to see the draft in its entirety. We encourage all Royal Oak residents to stop by to read the draft and provide feedback," said Recreation Supervisor Tod Gazetti. "If you have ideas about recreation, or see a need at your local park, now is the time to read our plan and let us know if you think something is missing or should be changed.”
The Master Plan is intended to serve as a guiding force for decision making over the next five years for the City of Royal Oak. It will be put on file with the Department of Natural Resources (DNR), the Southeastern Michigan Council of Governments (SEMCOG), and the Oakland County Parks System. This new plan will also be used to qualify the City of Royal Oak for DNR Grants over the next five years.
Share your ideas
Please send your comments and suggested changes to Stewart Meek, Assistant to the City Manager at 211 S Williams Street, Royal Oak, MI 48067 or email them to StewartM@ci.royal-oak.mi.us.
Residents seeking further information are encouraged to contact the City Manager’s office at 248-246-3200.
The draft of the 2013-2018 Parks & Recreation Master Plan can be found attached to this article.
Information provided by the City of Royal Oak.
Do you have ideas about recreation or see a need at your local park? Tell us in the comments.
The Duke of Royal Oak
8:50 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I would have to know more about a pool or splash pad such as cost to the residents and the impact on the surrounding area of where such a facility would be placed. I myself would not have any use for this type of facility. I would like to see the parks that are not DEDICATED become dedicated parks so that it would take a vote of the residents to sell these parks, and not subject to the city commissions judgement to sell these parks. This would include Normandy Golf course, which the commission was discussing selling a few years back to a home developer.
George
12:29 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Duke, you haven't been paying attention. Normandy oaks became dedicated when the commission dedicated the property at 13 Mile and Coolidge a couple years back. It was put on a ballot and voted by the citizens. 91% of citizens who voted supported the dedication.
http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/portal/sites/default/files/meetings/City%20Commission/2010/20100719a.html
See item #12. It was on the November 2010 ballot.
The Duke of Royal Oak
12:47 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Thanks George for the information on Normandy Golf Course.
kpn
10:07 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Get rid of Normandy as a golf course and build a nice Rec facility with a gym, pool, etc. Then make the other available real estate fields for sports. This could be a central location and it would have plenty of parking.
Mark Itall
6:59 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Getting rid of the Normandy course was tried 10 years ago when it wa hemmoraging money. No go. Green space that 98% of the community will never touch.
The Duke of Royal Oak
9:29 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I agree with Mark Itall- Hands off Normandy Gold course. Getting rid of one recreational facility to replace it with another is not logical.
Todd
10:17 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I think a pool is long overdue. Many surrounding area's have pools for their residents. Numerous friends of ours have asked why we don't have one, especially with our children involved in the school swimming programs. I think the Normandy Golf would be a decent location.
Ronald Wolf
6:07 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I am not familiar with this location however, a pool is a fine idea, and with the pool an additional splash pad as it would be more economical to put them in together. Grosse Pointe has a pool and it was so popular you had to show you were a resident , or the guest of a resident to use it when I lived in that area. Royal Oak has only one water attraction which is Stardream Fountain when its working and that could use an overhaul as far as the water spray and lighting. I do notice the kids are drawn to it like it was a magnet. A pool is a no brainer.
Mark Itall
7:02 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Ronald, All 5 Grosse Pointes' lakeside parks and pools were always resident and guest only, popularity was not a consideration. Which Pointe were you at?
Carol Cheatham
10:27 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
So many of our surrounding communities have family pools. I think this is an excellent way to use the vacant land. Having these kind of community ammenities will attract young families and keep them in our city. Look at Pleasant Ridge, Huntington Woods, Grosse Point, Farmington Hills, they all have pools that are very successful. I feel the tax increase is minimal compared to the benefits Royal Oak will realize.
The Duke of Royal Oak
12:48 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
What vacant land are you refering to?
Peggy
11:29 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
At a time that it seems residents in many communities are shut out of decision-making by officials, it is refreshing that the Dept. of recreation is seeking input. In the past, the Rec Dept and RO Schools seems to have had a more expansive cooperative relationship in using facilities. Would love to see the return of programming for students like the Royal Oak Summer Expo where children could take enrichment classes in two week sessions over the summer. Would also love to see parks become dedicated spaces for neighborhoods so any improvements would be sustained for future generations of families.
George
12:32 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Peggy, per State Law, the city, or Parks and Rec Board have to update their parks and rec master plan, and hold a public hearing.
George
12:33 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
...at least once every 5 years.
Ronald Wolf
6:51 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Peggy, am I wrong or do I not notice that the P&R master plan is largely steered by Don Johnson and his assistant? It seems the golf course gets an inordinate amount of attention (13 mile), and downtown receives zilch as the committee trys to spread what little is left over into more than a dozen parks in trying to please everybody.
Perhaps more of us should try to show up to these important meetings, otherwise the tail ends up wagging the dog.
Parks that are not highly rated could be use more for flower clubs and/or a community vegetable garden maintained by volunteers much like our butterfly garden. Maybe add a few ducks and chickens. Projects like these would receive some funding only if there is enough neighbood interest. Same with tennis courts and baseball diamonds. Golf is not everything.
citizen
12:50 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Splash pad!!!! Not sure about a pool but a splash pad would be awesome!!!!!
Tom
1:13 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Just out of curiousity, have you ever been to the county waterpark that is within about 1 mile of Royal Oak's border? Did you even know it was there?
Cathy Walsh
3:35 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I agree we are long overdue for a pool, where I grew up there were pools in every surrounding city, I hate that we have to go to troy to swim
John P.
6:41 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
My tax dollars have already paid for a pool in Royal Oak, in fact, two. Go swim at the high school pool, or the Olympic sized pool in the middle school (Dondero). Go argue with the school board if they won' t let them use the pools, they're yours!
The YMCA on 11 Mile Road also has a great pool.
The Duke of Royal Oak
9:32 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I agree with John P. There are three pools available in the city of Royal Oak.
l.c.
6:00 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
just where are the funds alloted to pay for this "pie in the sky" when public safety can't come up with funds to staff its department to levels 10 years past??? do you think the population has decreased to allow this to happen or are we just underfunded? stop spending if there are no rescources please.
Ronald Wolf
6:18 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Its now or never. We may be like the band on the Titanic but life is short and good times are getting fewer. Less parades, less festivals that get us all bent out of shape and more basic recreational facilities such as parks with sandboxes and chess tables , fountains and flowers. The closer to downtown the better.
I heard there may be a property available near city hall. If the price is right the city should bond and buy it for a much needed downtown parking structure (like it SHOULD have done with the foreclosed Fresard Property). This would enable Royal Oak to expand the memorial-Stardream Fountain park into a larger central park similar to what Birmingham has but more used as our location is better.
Downtown businesses looking to increase foot traffic should be all over this as added parking alone will not dramatically improve our downtown as a destination.
Judy Davids
6:36 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
The 2013 Master Plan qualifies the city to apply for grant funding from the State of Michigan Department of Natural Resources. (See page 8 of the PDF attached to this article.)
John P.
6:45 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Thanks Judy. The key word is apply for grants. It doesn't guarantee that the city will receive the grant funding. The grant funding is pretty competitive since nearly every community applies for a grant for their community recreational wish list.
Ronald Wolf
3:43 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
John P, thankyou for your input. In West Bloomfield the high school pool was open for senior classes. The Jewish Community Center has an inddoor and outdoor pool, and of course with so many small lakes in the Bloomfields and Keego Harbor there were ample beaches, though mostly private.
I go to the Y for excercise however the pool is only open for members and membership costs. Under the circumstances of a growing population Royal Oak needs an outdoor facility preferably part of an existing park with other attractions such as a splash pad for the toddlers, but existing pools in schools should be made open to the public during non school hours. Where there is a will there is a way and costs to keep it open should not be the responsibility of the school system alone. Many seniors with arthritis and back problems find pools to be lifesavers. Kids need to exposed to more excercise opportunities in this age of couch potato computer gaming as well. This is also a reason I am AGAINST prohibiting bicycles from sidewalks downtown. Cars should not have more rights than people seeking healthy exercise,, but downtown apparently they do thanks to our city manager I am sure.
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Judy Davids
6:45 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Thanks everyone for your comments. I spoke to Recreation Supervisor Tod Gazetti today and he encourages you all to be a part of the process. Send your comments - good, bad or indifferent - to Stewart Meek at StewartM@ci.royal-oak.mi.us. Stewart is responsible for gathering public input and recording it in the final plan.
Gena
7:24 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I really think that Royal Oak should provide parking at no cost during business hours. I know there's cost involved, of course - but, in Plymouth, their downtown is always full, all the shops, restaurants and bars and the parking is free.
And, I agree, we need a community pool and splash park, regardless of the high school and junior high pools. Very attractive to young families, of which we neede more in the city!
Ronald Wolf
4:01 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Parking has become a major source of income unfortunately, Ido agree that more free parking vacations would be beneficial for both business and our citizens. IMMEDIATELY there there should be a free parking "siesta" from twelve noon to three pm during weekdays as our downtown restaurants are suffering compared to restaurants on Woodward where parking is free. We could also save three hours of having to pay our beloved "parking nazis" as they are affectionately referred as. I would rather see more emphasis on writing tickets for littering as plastic cups, and cigarette butts blow willy nilly on our sidewalks and in our parking lots which create an anachronistic distraction from our abundant flowerpots.
Laura Harrison
9:51 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Three years ago I was looking around for a pool that had scheduled lap swimming. Swimming is the best exercise for "senior" bodies. The schools and LA Fitness had nothing. One exception is water aerobics at Dondero. The Y is the best and has lap swimming available several times a week. But a city pool with an attached splash area would be a great addition. And great for all ages.
l.c.
9:19 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
does the red oaks waterworks park not serve the surrounding area??? http://themeparks.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=themeparks&cdn=travel&tm=22&gps=13_7_1600_746&f=00&su=p1097.10.147.ip_p284.13.342.ip_p531.60.342.ip_&tt=11&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.destinationoakland.com/parksandtrails/waterparks/redoaks/Pages/default.aspx
Tom
10:44 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Great point l.c.
We have friends who live near 13 Mile and Campbell. Their children have walked to the county water park at 13 Mile near John R. Our tax dollars pay for this facility.
I bet there are southend residents that have bought pool memberships for the Pleasant Ridge pool priviledges that live near I 696 and Woodward, too.