Testimony: Royal Oak Principal Took $11,000 from Student Funds
Court documents reveal details behind the embezzlement charges Michael Greening faces: Money was transferred from school accounts to high school principal's personal bank account.
Royal Oak High School Principal Michael Greening took more than $11,000 over two years from cash deposits intended for the school's student activities account, according to police testimony last week.
Greening was arraigned Friday on two felony embezzlement charges, each carrying a maximum five-year penalty and/or fines. He has been on paid administrative leave since Dec. 16 "due to the possibility of financial irregularities in student activities funds," according to Superintendent Shawn Lewis-Lakin. Since that time little information has been released by the school district or Royal Oak Police.
Royal Oak Police Detective Keith Spencer testified Thursday in 44th District Court in Royal Oak that more than $6,000 worth of transactions in 2010 and more than $5,000 in transactions in 2011 were identified as being deposited into Greening's personal bank accounts or converted to his personal use from cash deposits made for the Royal Oak High School student activities fund.
The student activities fund includes money from variety of events, clubs and groups such as football, drama club, robotics, prom and the Spirit Club.
Spencer testified that during his investigation he was told the only personnel who had access to the school's safes were Greening and his secretaries and that Greening had sole authority to remove or move funds around in the student activities accounts.
As an example, Spencer said that on Dec. 13, just three days before Greening was placed on leave, an athletic booster’s activity submitted a cash deposit to the main office for $1,243.73. It was noted that a deposit slip had been filled out and signed by Brian Gordon, the school's athletic director and assistant principal.
“The deposit was placed into one of two safes in the vault by the principal’s secretary, Lynne Staszak, to be counted later," Spencer testified. "When Ms. Staszak pulled the money out of the safe to count it, she noted the amount of cash in the deposit was significantly smaller than what it was when she has placed it in the safe."
After counting they money, she noted it was $1,000 short of the original submission.
Gordon noted that the deposit slip he filled out was missing and in its place was one written by someone else for $240.73.
On Dec. 14, a $1,000 transfer was signed by Greening moving money to the athletic boosters account from the student activities fund, according to testimony, and on the same day, a $900 cash deposit was made into Greening’s personal bank account.
The cash deposit into Greening’s personal account could not be traced to any other cash source known and available to Greening, Spencer said.
Spencer also testified about an April 15, 2010, transfer made and filed by Greening of $3,000 from the senior class account to the student activities fund. When teacher and senior class advisor Nanci Marek asked about shortage in the senior class account, Greening told her it was "for another purpose" and she did not investigate further, Spencer testified.
Gordon would not comment on the testimony, referring questions to the superintendent.
Other than cooperating fully with the Royal Oak Police Department and Oakland County Prosecutor’s Office, personnel of the district have remained silent on this matter.
"We have not released information or spoken about the case because of our commitment to the integrity of the investigatory process," said Lewis-Lakin.
Greening’s attorney, Paul Stablein, characterized Spencer’s testimony as a "summation of what the detective thinks he can prove." At a swear-to hearing, testimony does not have to be substantiated, he said.
“I still do not have any evidence,” Stablein said. He expects to receive it on Friday when the matter is back in the 44th District Court for the pre-exam conference.
“Until then, I can’t make any comment one way or another,” he said.
With the school district administration and police department mum during the investigation, the community has been hungry for any details, any reason for the allegations.
Many students and members of the community have stood behind Greening since Lewis-Lakin sent a letter to the school's roughly 1,500 students and their families about placing Greening on leave and why. A Facebook page called Save Greening was quickly created and has grown to 764 "friends."
Mark H. Stowers
2:24 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
The puzzle starts to come together but we still need all of the pieces as will anyone who is deciding this case.
john doe
2:38 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
STEP ONE, stop paying this guy his salary! STEP TWO strip him of any pension plan, benefits or other compensation! STEP THREE lock him up and throw away the key! STEP FOUR hold a discussion in the HS gym talking about how even seemingly good people do bad things, and we need not condone this type of behavior
KimballGrad
5:14 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Wow....somebody made up their mind already without all the evidence provided...and I mean ALL. This is one side of the case, there's still so much more that we don't know. Last, you throw away the key at murderers like Tonya Watson and Alan Wood.
Pam Rusinowski
11:17 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Shouldn't we wait until Mr. Greening has a trial and IF convicted, then issue punishment. NOT BEFORE!
Kimberly Middlewood
2:41 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Has he made any kind of statement? If so, what has he said?
Judy Davids
2:47 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
He chose not to make any comments on Friday.
Kimberly Middlewood
2:50 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Ok...Thank you so much for keeping is posted Judy, another fine job reporting.
Lexi
3:06 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I'm a student at royal oak high he's a great principle. He's very loved, we the student body strongly believe he's innocent. So say what you want but that won't make us back down from supporting the one guy who help shape our school.
John Doe
3:15 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
hahah he could be a great principal.... that doesn't defeat the fact that he has embezzled more than $11,000 from your school. It is ILLEGAL. I'm not saying he is a bad principal, but he has done something completely illegal, and deserves to be penalized for it.
Rebecca
3:29 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Lexi, are you actually a student? The random misspellings and run on sentences in your post remind me of someone trying too hard to appear youthful. Forgive me if I'm mistaken, in which case perhaps you should make an effort to use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, and capitalization when praising your principal (not principle) who helped (not help) shape your school . Otherwise, it is difficult to give much weight to your praise for this man as a professional educator.
nofuture
3:47 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
boom. what she said ^^
john doe
3:17 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
1, ive never heard of students liking their principal... that alone bothers me, he isnt supposed to be your friend, or buddy, his job is literally one of supervision and control, that is if he was doing his job properly.
2, again, regardless of his guilt, he IS guilty of negligence, there IS money missing that he was in charge of... so trial or not he is already guilty
MS
11:24 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I'm confused as to when "principal" became synonymous with "prison warden". There is a difference between being a "friend or buddy" and being an administrator who respects his students and staff in a way that a significant portion of administrators in the city of Royal Oak do not. As a former ROHS student who dealt directly with Mr. Greening, I can personally attest to the fact that any time I interacted with him, he gave me the utmost courtesy and respect; I didn't feel like someone who needed to be controlled, but someone who was treated like the 18 year old young adult that I am, and recognized as a person who was invested in the success of the school as a whole. Mr. Greening was a fair principal who, for the most part, acted in the interest of his students. We as a network of students and as a community owe him the courtesy and respect of not jumping to conclusions and waiting until more definitive information is made public. In the meantime, you probably shouldn't throw in your two cents if you have no clue what you are talking about.
john doe
8:03 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
again he is not there to interact with students, he should be too busy
this is the principals job: The school Principal serves as the educational leader, responsible for managing the policies, regulations, and procedures to ensure that all students are supervised in a safe traditional learning environment that meets the approved curricula and mission of the school. Achieving academic excellence requires that the school Principal work collaboratively to direct and nurture all members of the school staff hired by the Board and to communicate effectively with parents. Inherent in the position are the responsibilities for scheduling, curriculum development, extracurricular activities, personnel management, emergency procedures, and facility operations.
MS
7:50 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I take issue with the fact that you quoted this website (http://www.napcis.org/PadrePioPrincipalJob.pdf) verbatim. I feel that if you are arguing about this topic so profusely, you should be familiar with the fact that Royal Oak High School is a public school, not an "independent Roman Catholic School" (the type of institution napcis.org is meant for). I guess I should be congratulating you on your ability to use Google in order to figure out what a principal does! You obviously know very little about what is going on in this situation; I highly doubt that you are an educator, parent or student. You may be a taxpayer concerned about the school funding that you contribute to, but the negligible amount of your taxes that were (or more likely were not) affected by this shouldn't even be an issue. That being said, please stop talking like you have some personal stake in this. Please stop blatantly criticizing a man who deserves the right to innocence until proven guilty, and a man who many people in the city of Royal Oak respect. And finally, please learn to use sources that accurately support your argument, because using a Catholic school's handbook for your definition of a principal's responsibilities is just plain embarrassing.
john doe
10:32 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
@MS... YOU & OTHERS DONT SEEM TO GET IT... HE cannot be found INNOCENT... that verdict is not an option to the judge or jury... he may be acquitted of the charges at best, but all that means is that the case presented to the jury was not beyond a reasonable doubt to convict.... not that he was innocent...
4Mike
3:23 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Has anyone testified as to whether there was any tracking of money going OUT of his personal account, say to pay for other needed school activities whose budgets were being slashed? Yeah, he seems to have handled this all wrong, but to jump to the conclusion that he used the money for himself is not warranted, at least not yet.
Rebecca
3:32 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
4Mike, even if he played Robin Hood and stole from student groups who were good at fundraising to pay groups with less funding...how does that impact his guilt? That doesn't make it any less criminal.
Janet O'Leary
3:40 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I'm glad to hear that the public is now getting more information about this case. As a student that attends Royal Oak High School it is nice to be receiving some of the answers to the questions that I have been curious about. I look forward to learning more of the information about this case, and finding out the verdict. Until then, patience is needed.
Pam Shewchuck
4:38 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Nicely stated Janet O'Leary. Nicely stated.
patty
3:55 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
@Rebecca Will you check my comment before I post so I don't make any spelling or grammar mistakes.
Gabriel Miller
4:02 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
So, what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
bob dobalima
4:22 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
If Rebecca says hes guilty then hes guilty. No chance the legal system can come close to matching Rebecca's omniscience. After all Im sure after reading this article she has all of the facts and evidence to begin her condescending rants of unarguable facts from God herself.
bob dobalima
4:25 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
And no one pays attention to run on sentences when posting a 4 sentence comment from their phone detective.
Rebecca
4:04 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012
At least you stopped pretending to be a student, Lexi. Errrr, I mean bob. That is how you know "she" posted from a phone, right? Oh, sorry for this "condescending rant." LMAO! :-)
Judy Davids
4:48 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
The comments will now be moderated. A couple of things, let's stay on topic. Please talk about the story and not each other. And if you use profanity, I can assure you your comment will be rejected.
Millie Kid
4:50 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I am very upset! I am a Royal Oak alum from c/o 2010. I always wondered why our school was so run down and why we never had the things we needed. This explains it. If you put the pieces together you can see that he is guilty. Its just sad that a person would so such a thing. I pray for his forgiveness from God but I don't think I'm ready to forgive him.
john doe
5:22 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Yeah Its funny how we have a major city, with high property taxes, just closed a ton of schools, and still our high school is a delapadated old building...perhaps they are all theives, and greening didnt want to share... remember there is no honor among crooks, at normandy and crooks...
Patricia Andreski
6:15 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I think our judicial system was set up for a purpose- people are supposed to be innocent until PROVEN guilty. Apparently we have amazing psychics in Royal Oak because they already know how this trial ends! It's a shame that this community has allowed the media to determine his guilt or innocence. As for John Doe...a lot to say for someone who won't even leave their name.
Kelly Geyer
9:03 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Very well put Patti. I too have said on several posts, this country is about innocent until proven guilty. We have heard information that was presented by one side of a two sided system. Folks, I ask you to put yourself in Michael Greenings place. If this was you, would you not want folks to wait and here all sides before forming an opinion? That's the problem in general in our society, we want a quid pro quo and that is just not the way it should be. As I said last night in another post about this story, we all want answers and they will come till then I urge no judgements either way. And yes, for those who find it hard to believe, I too have 2 kids (one who graduated and one who graduates this year) they have known Mr Greening and liked him very much. All things are possible.
john doe
9:52 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Kelly you cant say "if this was you how would you feel" because it was greenings own choices that led him down this path... again even if he didnt personally steal the cash, the missing money is HIS sole responsibility, so he put himself in this...
Kelly Geyer
7:13 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
John Doe, yes I can say put yourself in Michael Greenings place; while there are charges pending we do not know ALL THE FACTS. Might I suggest you do some sole searching and find out why you are so quick to judge. My reasoning for asking folks to put your self in Mike's place was to ask yourself, no matter what turns out to be FACT, would you not want judgements to wait until all sides have a chance to present their case. Try walking less on water and being perfert Mr Doe and walk in someone else's shoes for a moment. IF (and this is a big if) Mike is found guilty of a crime, it will be in a court of law by either a jury of his peers or by a Judge in a bench trial, and punishment will be decided. Not by those who are quick to judge. I respect the legal process we have in this country and will continue to support Mike, his familly and my school community with positive comments and feelings, until I see and hear all sides, not just one.
john doe
8:03 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Funny Kelly, people like you are quick to judge a child molester on tv, but if you know the guy then you want to find some other answer.... again, he IS GUILTY of 1 issue of the other, EITHER embezzlement or negligence no way out of that when you are in charge and the kids are victimized
Kelly Geyer
7:50 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
@John Doe: I have thought about your posted comment to me at 8:03 this morning. I have attempted to remain positive in what has been and is becoming a very difficult situation for everyone involved. Especially for the staff, students and parents of the ROHS community. I have a right to my opinions Mr Doe just as you do. However, unless you personally know someone on this comment thread, please do not assume to know what I or anyone else thinks about another subject not related to this thread.
Patricia Andreski
6:27 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Hard as it is to believe he is a great guy and students do like him. I have had 3 children graduate from ROHS and they all loved him. I have worked with him for years in many different capacities and that school and the kids were priority one. I will be there to support him on friday because he was always there for the kids when I worked with him and he deserves the same support and respect.
john doe
6:31 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Whats with your people? I have my full name as my avatar? From a legal stand point nowhere in our legal documents are we given the right of innocent until proven guilty, however, the burden of proof does lie with the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is in fact guilty.... but he will NOT be found INNOCENT, as that is not a finding a jury can make, simply guilty or not guilty
Joe Smith
6:34 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
John Doe's views are one of an impatient child who won't let this case work through our legal system. Prosecution must state their case, present their facts and then be brought in front of a jury of peers to determine guilty or not guilty.
john doe
6:38 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
like I said, this case will never reach trial he will plead out and take 5 years plus restitution... he's probably getting in as much family time as he can right now before taking his vacation
KO
6:53 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
John Doe joined the patch on April 19. How convenient that there has been no other article on this website that has required your great mind to sort out all of the legal points in a case for our community. In addition,your psychological evaluations of the accused and the community have been invaluable. So glad you decided to be there for us all now. Thank you, Sir. Thank you indeed.
(cue: Mighty Mouse theme)
john doe
7:07 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Hey I learned about the case, and evaluated it. I didnt realize this was merely an extension of the "We love and Support Greening" facebook page... but i should have known since everyone just keeps pointing out how amazing of a man he is.... but the facts are in disputable, only defense he has is to someone rationalize why he took the money and put it in his personal account...so i guess the moral is, you can embezzle money, and be a great guy in other ways???
ROHS Parent
7:24 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I, too, am a supporter of Mike Greening and felt as though this investigation was a witch hunt.... Mike is a well respected administrator and liked by many...and that is why this comes to such a shock to his supporters. But, John Doe MAY be right here. Yes, you are innocent until proven guilty, but you can't ignore the evidence/facts. Mike's lawyer will have to prove in court that all of these allegations are false. We will just have to wait and see.
KO
7:27 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
".....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone 'on this site' is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
Royal Oak Parent
9:03 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Where did all of the money go then? Yes, Mr. Greening was a great principal and we thought he was a great guy. The money does not just disappear. Other faculty have attested to the case that there was a shortage of money - Mr. Greening was in charge of the money. Sure, you can say there is no clear cut evidence yet that he took the money as no one truly witnessed him taking it. However, the money was his responsibility and it is gone. $11,000 could be going to a lot of things at Royal Oak, and although he is a great guy, he is wrong here and deserves to face time in addition to a hefty fine.
Thomas Gagne
7:33 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Billy Madison!
KO
11:17 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Thank you Mr. Gange, you nailed it :-)
KO
11:17 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Sorry for the misspelling Mr. Gagne.
i'mjustsayin"
7:27 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
that's the beauty of anonymity, no one knows who you are.
KO
7:42 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
My comments were directed at john doe
john doe
9:03 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
yea great comments, your quite the intellectual proving your argument through ridicule.
My points were well thought, clear, concise and of logic. Those who support greening have presented no logic to support their position. They have presented no plausible explanation for the missing money, simply that this is either a conspiracy or a witch hunt
Dan
9:03 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
"I sat thru the hearing for issuance of the warrants...an amazing principal, who stole $60,000 over 5 years from student activity accounts, and put the money in his pockets..." John Doe, these are comments you have left on the Patch website recently. Even this testimony given in the article gives an accused number far less than what you swore was stated at the April 19th hearing. You are therefore no longer a credible source, just keep that in mind be for you go all high and mighty. Anyways, I must admit that I am trying to stay as neutral as possible. We have a judge and jury for a reason- they make the decisions not us. All of our banter is meaningless. At this point moral support will have minimum effect. It is in the hands of the judicial system now, and we can only hope that whatever the outcome may be, it is 100% fact.
RW
9:52 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
In our justice system, a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. The allegations of misconduct have been made by the prosecutor and supported by the investigations of the police department. There has been no trial to determine his guilt.
It may have been more beneficial for the defendant and plaintiffs NOT to have released any details of the case. Doing so seems to have created an online posse of civilians who are quick to judge without reviewing the actual facts in the case.
Mike Greening is, at this point, still considered innocent.
john doe
9:52 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
@Dan, like I said, what was mentioned at the ARREST WARRANT hearing can differ from an arraignment, as other charges may be pending, or the prosecutor may not have had sufficent evidence for all of the charges to be pressed .... so save your nonsense
Royal Oak Parent
9:52 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
I agree with John Dow on this, unfortunately. In the hearing, it was mentioned was that $60k over 5 years has come up missing in the student activity funds just as John Doe has said. However, the court could only verify 20k in his accounts as evidence to press the charges against Mr. Greening. Mr. Greening was a great man, but what no one is seeming to understand is that the money that has "disappeared" was the money of students, as well as the parents. He could be a great man that all of the students cherished and loved, however, does him being such a great guy overlook the fact that he was embezzling a guaranteed $11,000 (possibly more) in student funds? No, it does not. He made a huge mistake and the evidence is clear. Mr. Greening has been charged, and could not be charged unless the evidence was there. No one can be arrested on an accusation. Open your eyes people. This is the money of our students and parents that he has taken for his own. Unfortunately, he deserves whatever sentence they send his way.
Kelly Geyer
7:13 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Does the information that has been released look bad, yes. Could there be other plausible answers for the missing money, possibly. Did the money come from students, staff and parents, to those student accounts, yes. All of this is fact. What has not been heard is from both sides of the case. I am sure if the jury or judge listens to the facts of the case, they will make the decision on the fate of the accused. If and when that time comes, then it will be a sad day for a once great man who like all humans are imperfect. Good people can do bad things. However, no judgements from me...."Judge not lest ye be judged"
john doe
8:03 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Kelly, they laid out a pretty simple chain of custody and event son the missing money.... it gets deposited with the principals secretary or himself directly, and a reciept with 2 copies is signed and dated... then the money goes into the principals private safe , then he personally is to deposit the cash... somewhere along that trip money is missing and deposit slips altered.... now in the accounts money was transferred from one student activity account to another to make up any short falls, but then shorting another account... simple logic
Jane Doe
10:49 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
@john doe, after reading your diatribe against @KO, I was wondering if you realize there is a difference between your and you're. Disregard of basic rules of Engish makes it even more difficult to take your opinions seriously. In your own words, "your quite the intellectual."
john doe
7:33 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
im sure you are at the top of your comp class, but this is not a class nor is it graded...besides 20 years from now everyone will typing in "text" language as it is quicker, and easily understood...
Anne Bennett
11:17 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Whether he is guilty or not the charges brought against Greening will impact him and his family forever. There will always be questions regarding guilt or innocence. We all know that good people do bad things. Inconsistencies in chain of funds has been established in the Greening case and he has been charged with a crime. Whether you like Greening or not it does not matter. He has been charged with a felony and will have to defend himself in a court of law. I wish him luck, but if found guilty - throw the book at him. How arrogant. A person in his position taking advantage of a title and everything it is suppose to stand for.
Royal Oak Parent
12:24 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Very well said Anne. Jane Doe, you can sit and critique John Doe about his use of "your" versus "you're", however, all students need to open their eyes about the facts in the case. It is just as John Doe said, the money was the responsibility of Mr. Greening. Along the lines, receipt forms have been altered, money missing, and his bank account saw a rise in money present the same day the money went missing. This money was the money of students and parents. Open your eyes! He could have been the greatest man in the world, but what he did was completely immoral and wrong. Unfortunately, he deserves everything that is thrown at him in terms of punishment.
Matt
7:50 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
This is total BS. hate to say it, but how the hell do you know these facts before the court releases them? How do you know hes guilty before its proven?
Also somebody calling themselves John Doe then bashing my principle is halarious. By the way, its the Vice Principle who does the punishments. Anyways, this is a great time to say: Don't Believe everything you read on the internet. If your going to, make sure it has more than one source.
Alexandra Dulin
10:32 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I trust that you all are aware that students have access to this page. I understand that individuals want to express their opinions, but you're not opening the eyes of a bunch of fourteen year-olds. You're confusing them even more, and causing more sadness and anger at the high school than would occur if you just kept quiet. Arguing and insulting each other like children proves nothing but your own willingness to sacrifice the reputation of a man who has yet to be proven guilty, while forcing a bunch of teenagers, who are attempting to deal with a severely disturbing incident, to watch a bunch of people who are supposed to be adults fight on anonymous online chat boards. You claim to express concern for the students, whether it is for their mental state or the money that is missing from their school. Well I'm a student, and I don't at all feel like adults care about me. I feel that they are more concerned about spouting their own misinformed and unsupported opinions, and attacking any one who has the audacity to disagree with their infallibility. You have the right to say what you want, but I ask you to consider whether or not what you say is going to do harm or good for the students, who are most affected by this incident and who you claim it's all about. Insulting someone's intelligence isn't going to find the missing money, and insulting someone's opinion isn't going to yield the verdict you desire.
john doe
12:49 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
theres no need to sugar coat things for students... this is a great learning experience....1, even the nicest people you may meet, even people in a position of power can be crooks...2, no matter how slick u may be, if you break the law, you will get caught ....3, if you do the crime, you will face consequences.....
so hopefully the students do read these comment boards and see how much anger, concern, disparity and problems one man can cause by either stealing, or not doing his job...
Bill
5:47 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
Nicely stated Ms. Dulin. Regardless of the charges, Mr. Greening is entitled to his day in court, and until all the facts are available it would be prudent to tone down the rhetoric. If for no other reason than respect for Mr. Greening’s family and more specifically his children. This exchange of anonymous, and sometimes emotionally charged comments serves as a great example of why higher education is so important.
Bill
5:47 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
Mr Doe... “STEP THREE lock him up and throw away the key!” Really? What’s the lesson here?! By the way, good principals get out and about, and speak with the students and teachers these days. They tend to be more approachable, and connected with the student body. Don't read between the lines, now - I'm not making a judgment either way...
ROHS Hockey Fan
7:16 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
As stated in the above article..."On Dec. 14, a $1,000 transfer was signed by Greening moving money to the athletic boosters account from the student activities fund, according to testimony, and on the same day, a $900 cash deposit was made into Greening’s personal bank account. The cash deposit into Greening’s personal account could not be traced to any other cash source known and available to Greening, Spencer said."
Hmmm..... People, this is, in fact, evidence that the ROPD has found over their 4 month investigation. Yes, it has to be proven in court. Looks like he's got a lot of explaining to do. Should be interesting.
Ronald Wolf
3:29 pm on Thursday, April 26, 2012
The mills in Royal Oak grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly small ( Milton). Meanwhile whats happening about the "big money" transferred ostensibly as campaign contributions from present and prospective principals and friends of downtown "sports bars" in RO's DDA to various council members? "Coincidentally" seeming to result in favorable decisions.
nofuture
1:00 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
After reading the comments made by the students in this thread, I am seriously considering private school for my child. The flaws in grammar, spelling and critical thinking are disappointing. Furthermore, it seems that the ethos of the students is to accept this crime against them, and defend the accused. I don't want my daughter institutionalized to tolerate crimes against her because they were perpetrated by an authority figure (allegedly).
KO
11:55 am on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Not one student has stated that that they "accept this crime against them". They are expressing their support of an individual that they respect, and feel is incapable of committing the crimes of which he is accused. Also keep in mind, some of these students are friends of the accused daughters.
As they have learned in their "public" school, the legal system must run its course. If the accused is found guilty, then he will be punished. But until that time, they will continue to hold their heads up high.
As a poster above, so ineloquently put it, "good people do bad things." The students are not denying that. But until the prosecution had proven that in this particular case, we, along with the students, must just wait and see.
You stated: "I don't want my daughter institutionalized to tolerate crimes against her because they were perpetrated by an authority figure (allegedly)."
"Allegedly" is the key word here. Or perhaps placing the word in parentheses was your attempt at sarcasm.
Perhaps you require a lesson in critical thinking from the students.
nofuture
5:02 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
If a good person does a bad thing- they cease to be a good person. Your rebuttal is unnecessarily combative and lacks substance. It's an issue of perspective. I am fine with you living your life as a victim and teaching your kids to do the same. I choose not to. Do you have any other Will Farrell movie quotes to support your well thought out and mature position?
Kelly Geyer
2:34 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Very well stated KO. The point is the students took a stand for their Principal and his family; righ or wrong, no judgemens or accusations just their support. The administration, at the high school and at the school administration building should also be commended for allowing the students the opportunity to express themselves. This has been very difficult on them as well as for the staff, teachers and parents of ROHS. The administration treated these young people with respect in allowing them the opportunity to express themselves in a very mature manner.
Bill
5:22 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I have found the comments made on this forum surprising.
First, for the apparent lack of tolerance in our community. Yes, I’m very aware of the legal system and I understand the implications of what has transpired. Yet, there’s still the presumption of innocence and there’s always two sides to every story.
This is coming from somebody who is neither a supporter nor detractor of Mr. Greening.
The other aspect of these discussions that I have found surprising is how quickly the participants turn to personal attacks.
Maybe it’s the result of years of watching our political “leaders” attack each other or all these mindless reality TV shows where the participants have the mental capacity of gnats...?
TJO
2:20 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
What I find most disturbing in all of this is that people are so caught up debating wheather Mike is guilty or not, they are missing the important part of all this. Fact is money is missing, we know that much. People should fucus more on accountability accross the board. This is not the school boards or administrations money but ours. The families of Royal Oak Schools. For years I've seen too many free passes handed out.
Cpt Dano
5:38 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Hey what does fucus mean? Is that what greening did?
Anna McGuire
11:49 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
@ Bob Dobalima...zilch!
Preferring Anonymity
12:01 am on Saturday, May 12, 2012
I'm sure you haven't forgotten that this is a public forum. Everyone can see it, children, family, even Michael himself if he wanted to see it. Just reminding you because some of these comments are extremely offensive.