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The BIG LIE

Arguing against positions that no one has taken

A consistent theme has developed and been used by City Commissioners who vote for additional bars. A close analysis of their comments at the City Commission meetings and sound bite sized quotes offered to the press disclose that their position is usually framed to oppose someone who is advocating that there should not be any liquor served in Royal Oak at all, or that we don't want a vibrant Downtown. The truth is that no one has taken that position. Most of us believe that a balanced downtown requires some Liquor licenses to compliment other business activities and their patrons. For example, retail shoppers may wish to have lunch after shopping. Office workers may desire to walk to restaurants with their clients. Residents in and near the Downtown may enjoy walking a few blocks to have dinner.

The Commissioner members who keep approving bars fail to comment or rebut the true position and concerns of those who disagree with them. They do not engage in a dialog that could acknowledge that those who object to more bars base their objections on sound public safety concerns, along with solid economic and planning criteria. They avoid the real issues about being totally oversaturated with liquor and the costs associated with their decisions. Instead, they speak in generalities and clichés that can be sound bites such as "Let’s just hang a CLOSED FOR BUSINESS sign at every entry point to Royal Oak.", if we fail to approve the next license. They are quick to condemn anyone who disagrees by claiming that all other points of view are somehow opposed to jobs, growth and progress.

Their positions are based on either a lack of true analysis, false conclusions, or no proven relationship between causes and effect. It is important to analyze the statements made by these City Commission members. When they attempt to publicly justify and create plausible reasons to explain why they vote for more bars, they present no facts, evidence, data, or experts to support their decisions. A pattern of similar statements emerges, and it is very frustrating to hear repeated and unsubstantiated claims, made over and over, as justification to continue approving additional bars in our city. A fairytale like story is promoted that claims that the economic engine that powers our city is the additional bars that have been added in the last few years.

The claims now have evolved to the point where some Commission members are claiming that the influx of bars/restaurants have somehow magically increased our property values in the last year. Some Commissioner members who support additional liquor licenses claim that Royal Oak has "IT" and must approve more bars to remain relevant. Of course, none have defined what "IT” is, or more importantly, the true cost to our community of being "IT". Following that logic, why would there be a need for a millage when the Commission only needs to keep approving more bars. It's a ridiculous and unsubstantiated claim. Hopefully, we will not be forced to hear newly fabricated evidence or so called facts that are produced now, after the fact. If there was any evidence to support their position, it would have been produced before the votes granting approvals. The truth is that at the time of approving the increased capacity for thousands of additional drinkers, there were never any facts or evidence in existence to justify the approvals. All we heard were the sound bites and conclusionary statements.

For many of us, being relevant would be striving to become more like our neighboring city of Birmingham. They seem to have followed a long term plan based on sound economic and planning principles that resulted in a balanced mixed use downtown. There is great danger of substituting sound planning with political gamesmanship.  As a city, we do not want to gamble on a game and become the last one tagged “IT”. Currently the city of Pontiac and some others have been tagged “IT” after years of dealing with a failed entertainment district among other problems. Pontiac currently finds itself under the thumb of a State appointed Emergency Manager. 

Additional bars generate a tax revenue windfall for our city

This claim simply is not true! In a fully developed city where almost every property already has a building on it, tax revenues don't materially increase when a bar goes into an existing, taxpaying building. They do not pay more taxes than other types of uses of the same land and building. However, they do use a lot more city services (public safety) than other types of businesses.

The City Manager with the help of the City Assessor prepared a study that clearly shows that all the bars in the entire city of Royal Oak only pay real and personal property taxes to the City and DDA in the amount of about $250,000, or enough to pay all the costs for only 2 police officers. While other taxes are also paid, (i.e. County, Schools, and O.C.C) it is only the City tax that is used to pay for public safety within the City of Royal Oak. The City Manager points out that he was surprised that the total was so small. This should be expected because most bars approved are moving into existing tax paying buildings. If the building would have had a retailer, the building would pay about the same amount of taxes, but require much less public safety services.

What happens is that without a newly constructed building built on vacant land, the tax revenue does not materially increase. Most of the additional bars merely move into existing buildings that have been paying taxes. The incremental increase is tax is so small that it cannot possible pay for more police, but their liquor establishment requires more policing!

If the City Commission's approval pattern continues, the City Commission could, absurdly, double the number of bars, but the increase in tax revenue would be immaterial, or not even enough to pay for 1 more police officer. Of course, under that scenario, crime would greatly increase in the Downtown, without sufficient additional tax revenue to pay for the policing.

54 Liquor Serving Establishments versus 66 Police Officers 

The expert opinion contained in the ICMA study recommends hiring more police officers and creating a special police detail dedicated to the downtown. Hopefully, the need to pull police out of the neighborhoods every time a problem occurs Downtown would be diminished. Unfortunately, the tax revenue from the bars is not enough to pay for it. The City Commission is preparing to ask the taxpaying residents of Royal Oak (and other non-alcohol related businesses) to shoulder the cost of their self-created "entertainment/bar district" by asking them to adopt the largest city tax increase in Royal Oak's history!  One can make a strong argument that the taxpayers of Royal Oak will be asked to subsidize security for the local liquor industry.  

The truth is that additional bars do not create a tax revenue windfall. The opposite is true when the city has passes the breakeven point and is oversaturated with bars. Adding more will only increase the taxpayers burden  for public safety. Any increases in tax revenue will only materialize if all other property owners and homeowners are forced to pay more via a millage increase. 

In Royal Oak's 90+ year history, Royal Oak has always been a "family city". That reputation was greatly enhanced with the City's residential building boom after World War 2, and when many families were started in our great community. Yet, the three most common City Commission Agenda items in 2011, as identified at last year's Strategic Planning session were liquor issues, guns, and marijuana. These issues certainly do not convey a "family friendly" type of environment.

Additional bars enhance other businesses

Often, landlords will leave a building vacant when a retailer moves out and will speculate that they can earn more income if a bar rents their building. There is nothing illegal about speculation, but another political fairytale has developed that claims that an empty building must be filled with anything because the City needs the tax revenue. Their claim is that another bar is apparently better than nothing. This is a distortion of reality because during the periods of speculation, landlords are still required to pay property taxes. They do not receive a tax abatement. Taxes are based on the value of the property.

Of course, having viable business activity may generate additional spinoff customers for other nearby businesses, but in Royal Oak most of the Bar crowd arrives after 10 p.m. At that late hour, mostly, only bars and restaurants are still open, not retailers or other types of businesses.

The bar business consumes a much greater amount of taxpayer funded resources than most other types of use (public safety is the most expensive part of the taxpayer funded city budget). This unfunded economic liability to the City's General Fund is increased once the City has reached the oversaturation level, and every time another bar is added, or expanded. 

Do we want Main Street or Bourbon Street?

For the most part, taxes collected from the dozens of bars within the DDA (downtown) district are not directed to the City's General Fund, but are directed to fund the DDA. Since most public safety (Police/Fire) is paid for out of the General Fund, the tremendous cost to babysit some of the unruly patrons of the Downtown is mostly paid for by all of us. The so called tax revenues (or lack thereof in the General Fund) do not even cover the service provided to patrol and service all these bars. What does that mean? It means the public safety service being provided in the Downtown is being subsidized from somewhere else. Somewhere else equals the taxpayers living in all four corners of our community.

Some of the newer members of the Commission appear to be oblivious to past memos and information that quantify the issue... City Commission Letter #015-11 dated January 24, 2011 addresses the Property Taxes Collected from Class C, Resort and Bistro Licensed Business Establishments in our community. The result? The combined City taxes from ALL the bars citywide that will only pay two police officers each year!! This memo alone should forever refute unsubstantiated claims about tax revenue windfalls from bars. There is no silver bullet in bar tax revenues. Case closed!  Commission Letter #015-11  http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/portal/sites/default/files/meetings/City%20Commission/2011/0124-15-11.pdf

The Biggest Millage Request in Royal Oak's History is Coming 

In the very near future, the City will be asking citizens to approve a substantial millage increase. This millage will stand out because it will dwarf the failed 1.75 mill increase that was requested in 2005. You will recall that the 2005 request failed 10,920 to 5,115, or by over a 2 to 1 margin. It is expected that the City will request a millage increase of between 3.95 to 5 mills, which will by far be the largest millage increase request in Royal Oak's history! Keep in mind, the City portion of our current taxes is 7.49 mills. This future proposal will ask Royal Oak citizens to increase their city taxes by upwards of 55% or more! 

Additional bars create jobs and growth

There is no disputing that there is growth, but the growth is occurring in ways that create very little benefit to the entire city. The City Commission fails to consider all the associated costs. A review of the discussion at Commission meetings when bars are approved reveals that there is an absolute lack of any cost/benefit analysis. The growth of additional bars is not supported by the Master Plan. The growth has occurred in the ever-expanding unneeded "entertainment district" that is never mentioned in the Master Plan. When addressing the Downtown the Master Plan is specific. It has goals and objectives of creating a balanced mixed-use downtown center, enhancing mixed uses, encouraging retail, and creating buffers with residential uses. Following this plan would have resulted in a true net growth of jobs, with real employment benefits, not restaurant jobs paying minimum wage without health benefits.

Since the approval of Black Finn, these goals and objectives have been ignored by the City Commission under the pretext of more tax revenue, jobs, growth, and progress. These types of political buzzwords appear in almost every campaign advertisement with claims that a particular candidate or issue being promoted somehow is positive for creating jobs. These phrases are also frequently used by new liquor license applicants, their attorney, and the politicians who vote to approve additional bars.

We must remember that the type of jobs that President Obama or Governor Snyder talks about is the full time jobs with benefits that will allow someone to make a mortgage payment and raise a family. While all job creation is good, it is unfortunate, that most bar owners do not provide all their employees with benefits, or pay enough to raise a family. While there is some full time and well paid positions, most are part time or temporary. Many of the bars only increase their staffing levels a few nights a week when the late night drinking crowd takes over. This is sort of the bar/restaurant Industry standard. Jeff Horner, a lecturer in Wayne State University's Department of Urban Planning (and Royal Oak resident) states, “The average job at such an establishment may help pay the rent, but those are not usually lifetime jobs. Bars are not economic development engines for cities.”

For example, when Black Finn was seeking approval they promised incredible claims that were contrary to industry standards without any verification or guarantees. The claims promised: Jobs(75) with health insurance benefits, employees purchasing homes in Royal Oak, increased tax revenues, and a non-trouble causing white table cloth upscale restaurant that would sell 75% FOOD and only 25% ALCOHOL.

Instead, two years later at a Liquor Committee meeting, and in a letter to the Royal Oak City Attorney, the attorney representing Black Finn admitted that only 6 of their employees had health care insurance, none had purchased a home in Royal Oak, and that 75% of their revenue was from alcohol sales. None of the promises used when obtaining support, and votes for the initial liquor license approval proved to be true. Instead of a white table cloth restaurant the City received one of the highest volume distributors of liquor in Oakland County. They have also been an organizer and home site for some of the all-u-can drink party buses that drop their patrons off in Royal Oak. Most of the all-can-drink participants have cars parked in Downtown Royal Oak and attempt to drive home after hours of imbibing at the all-u-can drink bussed events.   

The case by case analysis fallacy

The bigger problem is that many new applicants use similar false claims when applying for a new license, a transfer, or expansion. The City Commission fails to conduct any meaningful due diligence or scrutiny of the facts. Then they use the unverified claims as support to approve the new requests. This is now called the case-by-case analysis and approval process designed to instill public confidence that the decision makers are doing their job. The City Commission appears to accept these claims as fact, and regurgitates the unsubstantiated claims to the public when granting approvals. Most of the claims are never proven to be true. Frankly, there is no follow up, accountability, or consequences for not delivering a promise that was made during the approval process for another license. Typically these promises deal with, alcohol-to-food ratio, or how many jobs were actually created, or how many people have actually received health benefits, for example.  

This process completely omits any consideration for the most important factors that should be weighed. Those factors should include the following: How can the city afford to police the oversaturated downtown? What is the point of no return (oversaturation), and how does additional liquor service benefit the rest of the city and not just a few new bar owners? The Commission skips over the important initial criteria because all the facts and evidence would lead to immediate denials without proceeding with the charade of the final step of a case by case analysis. 

Planning Experts have said that adding more bars and creating concentrated entertainment districts it is not the best strategy for a downtown. Bars are not economic development engines for cities. Furthermore, bars often can be a burden on city resources, especially police. Bars are not good financial propositions for cities. (Jeff Horner, Wayne State University Department of Urban Planning). Most cities understand this and create long term strategies that avoid creating an entertainment district. The central component of the successful strategies is to limit liquor licenses.  Royal Oak did this in the past by making good policy decisions, adhering to the Liquor Ordinance, and with the Master Plan. The planning has now been discarded and ignored. The next City Commission will have its hands full dealing with the decisions that are being made today.

Smart Planning = Sustainable Vibrant Downtown

Let us be crystal clear, every member of this community desires a vibrant Downtown Royal Oak in our city, including us. A vibrant and SUSTAINABLE downtown only happens by following the primary planning documents of the community, starting with the Master Plan and the Statement of Purpose of the Liquor Ordinance.  We aren't anti-alcohol, and never were. We are pro-smart planning! 

Opening Pandora`s Box?

Apparently, the City Commission believes that if mistakes are made, someone else can fix them later. Unfortunately, the City Commission ignores the basic legal principles and property rights that are created when a Liquor license is granted. These rights make it very difficult to revoke a license once granted. The owner of the license has all the constitutional protections that all property owners have in their property.

For example, if the Government chose to take away your home (property) to build a project, the homeowner would have many constitutional protections to ensure that the government was acting properly. The Constitution rightfully places restrictions on government when its actions conflict with an individual’s property rights. The Courts have extended the same protections to the owners of a liquor license.

It is very difficult for a city to reduce the number of liquor licenses if they acknowledge the mistake of approving too many licenses. We know, because both of us were there when revoking the license of the bar that was the site of Royal Oak's only drive-by shooting. Most would think that revoking that license was easy, but even in this extreme case, it was difficult, expensive and took a long time. We also remember when the City of Royal Oak was sued for $10 million dollars by the petitioner for SPACE nightclub. That was the applicant that wanted to promote dwarf tossing and feature the 300lb dominatrix named Brutal Betty. The City prevailed but expended much time and money defending from having such an undesirable and unwanted operation within Royal Oak. Another example was the old Jukebox on Woodward Avenue that frustrated the adjacent neighborhood and created a long and protracted legal battle to shutter an undesirable liquor licensed establishment.   

There is one way to avoid this problem. Constitutional rights only accrue after a license is granted. They do not exist before. Most cites realize this and act with great care, and caution, before granting a liquor license, because once granted, it could be in the city forever. Neither one of us can recall an example of a license from Royal Oak requesting to transfer out to another city.

It is exponentially easier to address a liquor problem before a license is granted, than after another bar opens up and becomes a problem. In the past, Royal Oak has had some success closing problem establishments after they were open, but only because there was a political will to do so, along with the money and manpower to investigate and litigate.

Currently, the City Commission has not expressed the will to correct their mistakes and take action before the problem gets worse. In spite of all the trouble in the Downtown, very few liquor license violations have been issued for over serving patrons. A typical weekend in Downtown ends with many arrests of individuals for alcohol or drug related crimes, but without any liquor licenses violations issued to the bars that over serve their young customers late at night. Instead of addressing the source of the problem, the City Commission has done the opposite and encourages more liquor service in our community.

We now have more of our establishments selling alcohol as their primary source of revenue instead of food. A violation of their plan of operation and promises made when they received their original approvals are ignored. Many existing restaurants are adapting to the City Commission's new pattern of ignoring the Master Plan, the Statement of Purpose of the Liquor Ordinance, and the Police Chief's recommendations and reasons for denial.  Existing liquor establishments are competing with the newly approved bars by selling less food and more alcohol. In fact, existing restaurants, even a burger joint, and a burrito restaurant feel the need to seek (or have sought out) approval of a liquor license in Royal Oak, just to compete. 

In 2 years, when a new Commission is elected, it may be too late to put the genie back in the bottle. Even if the new City Commission has the wisdom to correct the problem, they will lack the tremendous amount of money to pay for police and investigations of liquor license violations. They will not have enough resources to correct the mistakes that are currently being made by the sitting City Commission.

While it is true that a previous City Commission was able to calm the downtown in the late '90`s, things will be much different this time around. The problem is much greater in scope now, because of all the recent approvals that have expanded the number of drinkers in the Downtown by thousands. Hundreds of additional seats will also be added with the soon to open Jolly Pumpkin Brewery and Hamlin Corners Sports Bar. At the same time the City does not have money to fund an effective effort to bring things back under control. Even the pending millage request that will soon be on our ballots does not call for restoring the same number of police that were available in the late '90s.

All Units Downtown

Back in 2011, at a City Commission meeting, a Royal Oak police officer confirmed what some of us have known for a while. During public comment, and from the podium, the officer testified that "all units" are called to the Downtown nearly every single weekend. What does that mean? It means that all patrol officers, from all four corners of this community are diverted away from patrolling and protecting our neighborhoods, to go and deal with some unruly, inebriated fools in the Downtown. Plain and simple, that is just unacceptable! 

Instead of taking a cautious approach, the current Commission is making decisions that may end up being irreversible, resulting in the permanent need to take additional public safety resources out of the neighborhoods to control the Downtown late at night. Worse yet, a future Commission may end up in the position where it is impossible to keep the City safe.

Michael Andrzejak            roprotem@aol.com

Charles Semchena, Jr.      csemchena@wowway.com

Next Week: We're taking a one week break for the Fourth of July holiday. We wish everybody a happy and safe Fourth of July! We'll conclude our series the following week.    

Scott Warheit

8:24 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012

I thought we couldn't top the outrageous "our allowing new liquor establishments to open has led to a heroin epidemic" (because of course dueling piano competitions and BBQ go great with illegal drug use) line our former city commissioners used last week, but I'm glad to see we've gone even further down the rabbit hole this week with the discussion of the so called "party busses."

According to our former commissioners, "Most of the all-can-drink participants have cars parked in Downtown Royal Oak and attempt to drive home after hours of imbibing at the all-u-can drink bussed events."

I've read this a dozen times and it still makes no sense to me. So, people are driving to Royal Oak, parking their cars, preaumaby walking back to whatever city they came from, all so they can have a bus pick them up to take them BACK to where they just parked their cars where they drive home drunk. Just think about how illogical that is.

While we certainly need to make sure that after these vehicles drop off patrons they don't idle in our neighborhoods, anything we can do to cut down on drinking and driving should be encouraged. And despite the obvious misunderstanding (deliberate or not) in thi column, the so called "party busses" do indeed do just that.

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Rick Karlowski

10:34 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Before we get into the “what about this or that” exception, I am speaking in general terms here.

Don’t confuse a “party bus” with a limo.

Limos generally pick-up and drop off at the home of the riders. The limo in effect becomes the “designated driver”, which allows the riders to enjoy their evening without worrying about the trip home.

Limo capacity is also MUCH smaller, and is generally hired by a small group.

Party busses are a completely different animal. They are a large capacity shuttle services. They DO NOT drop the occupants off that their residents, the drop them at central locations, from which it is up to the occupants to figure a way home.

And yes, some party busses DO pick up and drop off folks in our downtown. Example, they are picked up in the downtown, go to say a Tiger game, and then return to the downtown after the game.

Nothing wrong with that, in theory, until you add unlimited alcohol consumption to the mix.

Having the busses park only in certain areas is a step forward.

However, as long as there is no operator responsibility, even if limited to being banned from operating in Royal Oak for multiple incidents of their charges causing mayhem, it doesn’t fix the problem.

J. Thompson

11:37 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012

Mr. Warheit, you have a lot to say, but you never address some of the core issues that have been raised.

Is the city following the liquor ordinance statement of purpose? Of course they aren't, if you read the ordinance. How will the city deal with the downtown, if it becomes unruly, again, like the 1990's? The city has 40 some less police, and about 20 more bars than back then. How can they react to a future situation similar to the 1990's when they had the police personel, and a bunch of money to pay for police overtime. The city no longer has the same resources to fight any future problems like they did then, starting with money and personel.

We have a past city attorney, a past mayor pro tem, and a past planning commission chairman who were involved in updating the master plan back then, all saying we aren't following the master plan because an entertainment district was never envisioned, yet, that's what we have. There are current commision members that have refered to our downtown as an entertainment district.

Finally, you never put a number on how many liquor licenses is enough. Can you?
What plan or vision is the commission following by adding more and more bars? You act if Royal Oak is a dry town. The fact of the matter is that Royal Oak has more bars in a concentrated area than anywhere else in Michigan.

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J. Thompson

1:11 am on Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Stop focusing on these guys for a moment. Is the police chief wrong in his recommendations for denial? Was Chief Quisenberry wrong making recommendations to deny many of the bars that now exist, even when he had over 100 police officers?

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Ed

1:14 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

This has been an interesting read.

There is a lot of sub-issues to comtemplate on the liquor issue. This series has made me think a lot deeper of the consequences of having too many bars, and the cost to the taxpayers to provide adequate policing.

Thank you to Mr Semchena and Mr Andrezjak for taking the time to encourage a public dialogue on this community issue.

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Andy S.

2:18 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Why doesn't the city ad a drink tax to every drink sold in Royal Oak ?... You want to talk about a financial windfall... Ad $0.25 to every drink and then use the money for something useful... I don't know if it's possible but it would have little or no effect on a restaurant or bars business and the city could use the cash for a few dedicated cops.

I bought my home and run my business in Downtown Royal Oak... I like the entertainment district. Young people come here because it's "the place to be"... That's a good thing in my mind... I was in Seattle a few weeks ago. What a fantastic, vibrant city. I went into a Qdoba fast food, Mexican place for a quick burrito and to my surprise they had Corona beer in the cooler right next to the fountain drink dispenser... You know what I did ?... I had a Corona with my burrito.

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Rick Karlowski

7:24 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Unfortunately, state law currently prohibits it. If they did pass a by the glass tax, I am sure they state would make sure the funds go to their coffers.

Debbie Campbell

8:51 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Why not create a PSD—Principal Shopping District?
Special assess the property owners within the district –Funds can be allocated for security within the district—Contract with the Oakland County Sheriff for additional officers.

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Andy S.

9:53 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

It seems like there has to be a way to pass a city ordinanace that would shake down the bars and restauarnts for a little money to cover the costs... If the state law prohibits it then why don't we lobby to change the law ? It'll take time but it might work.

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Rick Karlowski

10:00 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Did. A bill was actually written, but never saw the light of day.

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Ronald Wolf

1:14 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

As long as the tail wags the dog in this town that is highly unlikely. That is why you rarely if ever hear a yip from any member of the commission including our mayor on the Patch. To most of this motley crew this site is beneath their dignity, it is the forum of the peasants. Remember, the messenger is not the one who is rude. It is the truth that is rude to trusting citizens who are left to shoulder the burden of others mistakes.

M. Sherman

11:42 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

All I hear is crickets. Where are the elected officials on this?

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Debbie Campbell

1:33 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Yes I wish an elected official would tell me why a PSD wouldn’t work for RO.

Act 120 of 1961 - Principal Shopping Districts and
Business Improvement Districts:
“A PSD may be created within the municipality in a commercial area containing a
minimum of 10 retail businesses. The Districts may provide or contract with other public or private, entities for SECURITY and operation of the district.”

According to Birmingham’s Principal Shopping District Executive Director approximately 90 percent of PSD's funding comes from a special assessment tax on commercial properties in the principal shopping district.

Expected revenues for B’hams PSD are:
$1,012,560 for fiscal year 2011-12
$1,017,560 for 2012-13.

If residential taxpayers are special assessed for sidewalks and roads etc..
Why not special assess the downtown property owners for security??

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Ronald Wolf

1:34 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Yes where? No doubt recovering from the stress of Arts Beats and Eats where never have so many helped so few at so great a cost. Makes you want to open a bar, or a parking lot somewhere between Main and Washington. Sometimes I think RO gives proportionally more to downtown than our federal government gives for foreign aid.

Ronald Wolf

11:38 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Despite the hidden agenda of the fact that some commissioners were heavily contributed to by bars to influence their vote to expand there were some of our older established bar/restaurants that contributed to two commissioners to influence them to curtail any further competition. Verrrry Interrresting, and of course by now you can guess who those two were.
Still they are so correct that the residents are being scammed into supporting a milage that in part will help the mega-bars much more than they will help either the city, the police, or the residents. I agree that the taxes paid for by these expanded even larger mega barf bars are not adequate which is why I suggest a flat income tax for all who make their living in Royal Oak including the absentee owners of forementioned bars who hop into their Bentleys, Ferraris, or Lamborghinis to drive home to Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Grosse Pointe...ok I am exagerating but you do get my point. Consider all the lawyers who have offices here, some residents and some not who make a fortune on kids busted for DUI, Marijuana, disorderly conduct while at the same time handling any problems the bars have with the RO commission. RO is a hot spot for professionals so a small "mordita" of an income tax (one percent) across the board will greatly help to level the tax differential between the downtown entertainment district and innocent residents who do not benefit one iota from these drink unitil you puke bars (unless they are lawyers).

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Ronald Wolf

12:10 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Left out some other sources of $$$$$$$ a small income tax will tap into. The absentee owners of major parking structures, in the future this may include a seated commissioner. One is owned by a company in Chicago. The Emagine Theater, and of course every non resident landlord of commercial property in Royal Oak. With our commission giving out twelve year tax abatements as favors, just like Pontiac did before it sank faster than an Italian luxury liner RO needs to recoup some of the losses it takes catering to developers, and now judgement proof LLC's such as 400 Main. RO has little manufacturing that may relocate if you compare RO to cities that drove them out with excessive income taxes eg Pontiac, Detroit. First RO needs foremost a new charter and commission run by a hands on city manager who makes the decisions and can only be over rode by both the titular mayor and commission together.

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Ronald Wolf

12:39 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Debby, excxellent research, sometimes an answer to a problem is right under our nose. No need to re-invent the wheel. If this commission was not deep in the pockets of its supporters and you can guess who they are, this could, and should be looked into post haste. Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Instead of looking to Birmingham RO's leadership unfortunately prefers to emulate Detroit's contentious council, growing pains and all. Excellent work! Did I leave anyone uninsulted by the way? Tell me if you wish to be included. I still say RO's largest asset is an army of concerned volunteers just beginning to wake up from their slumber in regards to their misplaced trust in local politicians and an out dated dusty charter with an ignored ethics ordinance.

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