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RON Ostrodamus July 17, 2014 at 11:25 PM
A half dozen showed up, myself the only one from Barton Towers (no big secret). Well, our prez hasRead Morea previous and there was short notice so I guess like the Lincoln brewery it is mostly a done deal. Or, maybe not. We shall see. To his credit our mayor did say that if the rooftop bar was in the original proposal he would not have approved. I was amazed at Fournier and others who were going along with this nonplussed by the new "wolf in sheep's clothing" proposal. All of us on Troy know how the sounds of celebration travel from the Farmers Market two blocks away and these 'geniuses" who are so co-operative with the wolf and approve an outside rooftop venue for a bar with music, for special events such as weddings only fifty yards away? Can you imagine the cacophony? I was disappointed no one from the condos above Hamlin who have to put up with reflected sound bouncing off structures across from them into their windows did not show up. These aforementioned PC geniuses actually suggested a screen of sliding glass to muffle the noise of an open bar. That is like suggesting a red flag to stop a charging bull. Add this commission totally ignored our fire department statement that there is not enough parking going along with the developer's hired "professional" opinion that there is, while any jerk with eyes to see can tell you there is not. Woody Allen once said that 99% of genius is showing up. In Royal Oak we would still be flying the British Flag at city hall if the evident indifference I witnessed in room 309 was present then.
RON Ostrodamus July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM
Last minute notice and only a few showed up, all opposed. I was disappointed I was the only oneRead Morefrom Barton Towers (soon to be Bartown Towers if this keeps up). All of us on Troy know how sound carries from the Farmers Market over a block away. The developer wishes to have a rooftop bar and cater weddings only a hundred yards away from Barton and the University condos who already have problems with Hamlin leaving their windows open and the sound reflacting back to them. To his credit our mayor said if he knew this was their goal he would have voted no from the beginning, but then he decided to continue talking about how this could be ameliorated which is ridiculous. Someone suggested a sliding glass screen but that would be as effective as waving a red flag at charging bull. One suggested not having celebrations past nine as if that will work. Then the commission totally ignored the fire department conclusion that there is not enough parking and went going along with the developers so called experts? The parking situation is and will be the problem. These developers are amateurs and greedy ones at that. There is still no hotel that is interested and the problem is not Royal Oak as they claim, it is their obvious inexperience and greed at wanting to bring in their own people for a bar and not go with any prospective hotel. Then there is the false advertising on their sign in front showing a Hyatt hotel sign as if that is going to ever happen. It boils down to trust. My recommendation to the city is to forget about a hotel because it plainly is not going to happen, Say no to the bar, Allow them apartments and office space and a convention center if they still would want to go with one (that can have a liquor license), but NO MORE BARS! I would not mind a rooftop garden and patio for apartment tenants, and I would suggest that half their apartments have short one year leases as that is what will attract graduate students to live here. It would also provide families a place to stay while they are looking for a home. AND
RON Ostrodamus July 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM
...AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST! As the TIFA was contingent on the building of a hotel do not give it toRead Moret hem UNLESS they instead erect a second four story screened parking structure that while not a substantial money maker would at least take care of the parking overflow from E-Magine and the extended Hamlin. If they can do this I would even consider allowing them a small bar with a street entrance. This city blew its opportunity to do some hotel hunting on its own while the 696 gateway was available. Eventually, a hotel will come along once the city corrects itself and flies right by enforcing laws against the litter, the noise and the out of control motorcycle invasion! The biggest mistake since Rome invited the barbarians to join them.
Keith Wissman July 14, 2014 at 07:11 PM
We did it twice, first experience was okay but the second was a disaster. We had the two studentsRead Morere moved from our home. Walk into this with eyes, ears and brain wide open.
Keith Wissman July 14, 2014 at 07:15 PM
Scam. Ignore it.
Bill July 15, 2014 at 08:09 AM
It looks like that note is from the folks who go around and paint your street number on the curb to Read Moreenhance the “visibility” of your home. However, you don’t owe anything, unless you authorize the service. The note that you showed, implies that they did paint the curb with your house number - so the question is, did you authorize it or did they make a mistake...?
Gary Vanek July 12, 2014 at 08:02 AM
Its time we used this land for the good of the city, soccer has growen and we need some classRead Morefields and other items in the proposal.
Bob July 13, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Selling the land, I believe, will require a vote of the people.
Mark Itall July 13, 2014 at 10:50 PM
Correct Bob, it is a dedicated park, we get to vote. Don't like it? Consider voting no. Like it and Read Moredon't want debt to effect the improvements? Consider voting Yes.
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