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When Will Traffic Signal Be Replaced at 12 Mile & Rochester?

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The Traffic Signals at 12 Mile and Rochester roads have been missing for nearly one week.
The Traffic Signals at 12 Mile and Rochester roads have been missing for nearly one week.

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Patch reader Kara writes: "Have you heard anything about when the light will be rehung at 12 Mile and Rochester roads?"

To answer Kara's question, Patch called Royal Oak City Engineer Matt Callahan.

Callahan has received estimates to install traffic signals and the city will most likely sign a contract today, he said. It will probably be three or four more days until the traffic signal system is installed.

Calllahan explained it isn't an easy job. The city no longer has a full-time City Electrician, so there is not the ability to handle anything as major as signal heads that come crashing to the ground. Everything must be contracted out, he said.

"There was nothing salvageable," Callahan said of the Sept. 26 incident, which also took out the light pole at the northeast corner of the intersection in front of the CVS pharmacy.

Royal Oak police reported a truck bumped the pole and that rust might have also been a factor.

DTE Engery has put up all new poles at the intersection, Callahan said.

"They didn't like the looks of them," he said. "They were 60 years old."

Used signal heads will arrive next week, which will be replaced by brand new fixtures next month. New signals take four weeks to get,  Callahan said. 

The installation will require all the wiring to be redone before everything can be put back, Callahan said. The cost, including adding new countdown pedestrian signals, is nearly $20,000.

Unfortunately, the city cannot afford to  replace anything until it's absolutely necessary, Callahan said.

"We do the best we can to apply for grants when they are available."

In the meantime, the intersection should be treated as a four-way stop until the signals are reinstalled. Patch readers report the intersection is a safety concern. Royal Oak police advise drivers to seek alternate routes.

Jeff October 03, 2013 at 02:21 PM
Who's bright [read: terrible] idea was it to put those teeny, tiny little handheld stop signs taped to cones out there? There's got to be a better temporary solution than what's out there now.
John Maurice October 03, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Wait, why isn't the driver of the truck who took the lights out (or his company) paying for this? There's no way the city should be on the hook for this!
V October 03, 2013 at 06:47 PM
Agree with you, John. If it's the fault of a truck driver/company, they should pay for replacement, not the city. (At least, they should pay the price of an equivalent traffic light and pole that were destroyed.)
Lisa October 04, 2013 at 07:20 AM
Sounds as if it would be more cost-effective and time-efficient to have a full-time City Electrician.
Todd October 04, 2013 at 08:06 AM
And the city wants to spend $15,000 of our tax money to send out letters for the upcoming election.
Bob October 04, 2013 at 08:45 AM
Those poles were horribly corroded at the base. DTE replaced all of them as the article states. This was inevitable.
l.c. October 04, 2013 at 09:49 AM
I don't suppose the city also cancelled any pertaining insurance as a means to save a buck.why can't a part time electrician complete the task? lets hear the whole side of the story please.
Sherry Lane October 04, 2013 at 04:07 PM
those small stop signs at the intersection are a joke.. please can we borrow a some real stop signs from another city.. since R.O. is so broke...
Debbie Campbell October 04, 2013 at 06:12 PM
“Life Now Playing” in RO folks-- The City Manager will get around to addressing the issue after studying data from his next $12 THOUSAND DOLLAR Citizen Satisfaction Survey—
Judy Davids (Editor) October 05, 2013 at 09:01 AM
The city does have a part-time electrician according to Callahan but that person does not have the ability to work on something this major. When the work finally begins it will take contractors a few days to complete. Everything--wiring, control boxes--needs to be reworked. "Nothing was salvageable."
Debbie Campbell October 05, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Taxpayers approved and are paying a hefty public safety millage—Seems there should be some money to pay for a timely resolution to this hazardous situation--
Cpt Dano October 06, 2013 at 08:10 PM
We need to bring back Jim Harris, former city electrician.
Sherry Lane October 11, 2013 at 10:47 PM
well the traffic signals are up at the intersection.. ALL NICE ..SHINY AND NEW.. now tell me again why they will be replaced in a few months when we already have them up.. big waste of money to a city that's crying broke
Judy Davids (Editor) October 12, 2013 at 08:44 AM
Sherry, the traffic signals that are up are backup and are not owned by the city of Royal Oak. New signal heads take four weeks to arrive. The devices that are up are a temporary fix until the signal heads that were purchased arrive.
Sherry Lane October 14, 2013 at 09:42 AM
so there used... maybe we could have gotten them cheaper.. and where are these back-ups from.. are we renting them...

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