4th Main Street Armed Robbery in 93 Days - Let's tackle this with Cameras

My letter to the city commission pleading for surveillance cameras in Royal Oak to deter crime.

Below is my letter to the commission. Please read through this information, and if you feel as strongly as I do, contact the commission and let them know how you feel.



Commission and Police Chief,


I understand that we are working on this, and generally speaking crime is trending down. But these type of events are extremely embarrassing. Specifically, because there have been 4 gunpoint armed robberies 0.8 miles apart on a linear strip of road - which is usually bustling. This has all happened in only 93 days, effectively telling us (if this statistic remains constant) that every 23 days somebody will be held at gun point on Main St. Royal Oak.

I live 0.6 miles away from this activity. I have to embarrassingly explain to my family, who encourages me to move to Rochester, why I am spending so much money in my house and in the community.

I know there has been more of a police presence in our downtown, but they can't be everywhere all the time. Especially when they have to deal "trouble businesses" like LA fitness who continuously draw attention away, or any other one of the random daily issues.

I deeply believe that strategically positioned / policed monitored surveillance cameras around high crime areas (downtown) and main entry / exit points to the city will greatly deter crime. It will also make it much more easy to track down and arrest criminals. This type of surveillance system could be linked to the new camera systems being installed in police vehicles, so one officer in a car could track the criminals on our cameras while the other drives to the location, or this could be tracked at dispatch and directions could be phoned in.

Please see attached report done by the Urban Institute. I strongly encourage you all to investigate an investment like this. I truly believe it will pay dividends and reduce city cost, insurance, and draw more business / investment in Royal Oak over time.



I really do love it here. I just don't want find a reason to leave after having invested so much into this town.

Thank you all for your attention.

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A Grzeca February 24, 2013 at 05:11 PM
The crime is one part of the story. I think if the public knew what the bank's robbery protocols are, they might understand another facet of it.
Col. Duke Lacrosse February 26, 2013 at 04:33 PM
Cameras don't stop crime. http://www.secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2013/02/newsflash-cameras-dont-stop-crime.html That's from a Chicago cop BTW. Still haven't heard how a criminal that ignores cameras inside the banks he robs will be deterred by more cameras maintained by the city with tax dollars they don't have.
Tim H February 26, 2013 at 05:35 PM
We will know where he came from and how he got away. Then we would better be able to arrest him. Being in jail would be the deterrent. Also, if there is a higher arrest rate people will not feel like they can get away with crime in our city. That is the deterrent. What you posted as reference is an anonymous blog post, which could not be a Police Officer at all. The referenced opinion cites numbers without explaining were they came from, or how they got them. Far from being a published study with statistical substance. There is no time period explained, data pool listed, no design of experiment explaining defined variables and controls. Based on what was written in the blog, cameras increase crime? How could that be? This is hearsay at best. I value the opinion of our police officers. They have suggested that camera improvements on their vehicles will help them fight crime and improve prosecutions. I assume that if they have cameras at strategically fixed locations it would help them as well. My assumption could be wrong, so I would rather have them ultimately conclude what's best
Terry Richards February 26, 2013 at 05:43 PM
Downtown Birmingham utilizes cameras, and Southfield is in the process of installing camera in several of their parks. Cameras deter crime. Why do you think there are camera covering every inch of Fort Know, or a casino, for example.
Terry Richards February 26, 2013 at 05:44 PM
Fort Knox
Col. Duke Lacrosse February 26, 2013 at 07:39 PM
Second City Cop has more credibility than you Tim. He's been posting on the slow-motion disaster that is Chicago for a very long time. Certainly more credible than the fools at your precious "think tank" the Urban Institute. Oops, forgot, I'm not allowed to question your sources...that only goes one way. Your understanding of the criminal mind is laughable BTW...
Tim H February 26, 2013 at 07:54 PM
I do not have to be smug or accusatory to provide context to a conversation. I merely presented facts, and questioned what you were attempting to present as such. Admittedly, you are entitled to your own opinions; however, it is my opinion that we make sound decisions based on proven and quantifiable statistics. This is my only position.
Col. Duke Lacrosse February 27, 2013 at 05:13 PM
Still haven't heard how a criminal that ignores cameras inside the banks he robs will be deterred by more cameras maintained by the city with tax dollars they don't have. You don't care though. You'll want this funded and staffed because "you believe." Then down the road the village elders will come to us again with another "public safety" millage increase request. It's never-ending scope-creep in the size and role of government, courtesy of the useful idiots.
Tim H February 27, 2013 at 05:42 PM
Sir, it appears that you are predisposed with your political ideology. As I noted above this makes for an emotional debate. I am only interested in a conversation based in reason, facts and logic. I have answered your questions twice now, and have cited a study as reference for my suggestion to look into this idea. As noted above this is only a suggestion for investigation, as I do not claim to be the authority on anything. I sense you would like to have the last word. I will allow you that if you so wish, as this will be my last response on the topic. I wish you a happy and safe snow day.


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